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Take 2: 9/11 at 25, Charlie Kirk memorial debate, governor’s national profile

Sep 12, 2026 · 56m

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Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They also discuss Gov. Spencer Cox’s “Disagree Better” campaign, questions surrounding his growing national profile and a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Utah’s in-state tuition policy for undocumented immigrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices