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One Part Lion - One Part Lamb with Stephen Scoggins

One Part Lion - One Part Lamb with Stephen Scoggins

The $3 Million Mistake Most CEOs Make, And It's NOT What You Think | Rick Jordan

Oct 21, 2026 · 1h 34m

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He fired six people from the same seat in 13 months. The real problem? Forty-five minutes a day of training nobody ever did. In this episode, Stephen sits down with Rick Jordan, founder and CEO of Frequency Holdings, Inc., cybersecurity expert, and the CEO who took his company public without private equity money, to unpack why the people and decisions that build a company are rarely the ones that scale it. Rick and Stephen get brutally honest about a $1.7M betrayal by a decade-long team, a bad acquisition that quietly bled clients out the back door, and the employee who cost a company $3M because letting him go took two years. It's the Lion and Lamb methodology in action: the strength to…