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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Build a Forever Paycheck with Jean Chatzky of HerMoney

Oct 1, 2026 · 51m

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Learn how to turn your retirement savings into a steady retirement paycheck and how grocery stores may use your data to set prices. How do you turn decades of retirement savings into income you can count on for the rest of your life? Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with Jean Chatzky, host of the HerMoney podcast and author of “The Forever Paycheck: The New Retirement Strategy to Spend More, Worry Less, and Never Run Out of Money,” about why spending down your savings in retirement can be so hard, both in the math and in your head. They discuss where the 4% rule could fall short, the difference between buying a paycheck with an annuity and building one with investments, and…