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The Michael Shermer Show

The Michael Shermer Show

Why Consciousness Needs a Body

Oct 17, 2026 · 1h 20m

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Why does being alive feel like something? Neuroscientist Antonio Damasio argues that the answer begins with the body's need to stay alive. Hunger, thirst, pain, and pleasure tell us how we're doing and push us to act. These basic feelings, he says, are the foundation of consciousness. Damasio returns to the show to discuss his new book, Natural Intelligence and the Logic of Consciousness , why feelings and emotions are different, what your dog knows about you, and why he thinks Francis Crick looked in the wrong place for the origins of conscious experience. If consciousness depends on a living body, could a computer ever have it? And would uploading your brain actually preserve you? Damasio…