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Nikolai Yakovenko: the wages of the Hugging Face hack

Sep 10, 2026 · 1h 13m

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Nikolai Yakovenko is back on the podcast because of the Hugging Face hack . Yakovenko is a former professional poker player , and was a research scientist at Google, Twitter and Nvidia. With a decade in computer science , Yakovenko has been at the forefront of the large-language-model revolution that has driven to prominence companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and DeepMind, and an ecosystem that has birthed hundreds of smaller startups. He is also the founder of DeepNewz , an AI-driven news startup. His latest startup is HuggingNews . Razib and Yakovenko talk about the implications of OpenAI's inadvertent hack of Hugging Face, and whether he has been too sanguine about the possibility of…