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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!

Sep 30, 2025 · 1h 0m

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Mike sits down with former high school volleyballer Payton McNabb, who was knocked unconscious by a spike to the face, delivered by a male competing on the girls' team, and woke up in the middle of a national controversy. What followed wasn't just a concussion and long-term neurological damage. It was a brutal, firsthand lesson in biology, politics, and the high cost of pretending that reality is up for debate.