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Formation with John Ortberg

010. A Systems Theory Expert on the Anxiety Running Your Team ft. Steve Cuss

Sep 2, 2026 · 1h 33m

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What happens when the person managing everyone else's anxiety is the most anxious one in the room? Steve Cuss joins John for a conversation that starts in a childhood home in Western Australia and ends up inside the emotional wiring of every leader, marriage, and church staff meeting. Steve talks candidly about growing up in a household run by unpredictable anger, the confidence he built on a foundation of fear, and the hospital chaplaincy that stripped all of it away. What emerges is a wor...