Starcast Join the waitlist
The Way with Dino Katsiametis

The Way with Dino Katsiametis

How AI, Branding & Relentless Execution Built One of Mortgage's Fastest-Growing Teams with Abdel "The Gorilla" Khawatmi

Aug 17, 2026 · 1h 19m

Coming soon to iPhone. Already have it? “Listen in Starcast” takes you straight there.

On this episode

About this episode

Send us Fan Mail What does it take to stand out in today's mortgage industry? In this episode of The Way with Dino Katsiametis, Dino welcomes back mortgage leader and Abdel "The Gorilla" Khawatmi for an in-depth conversation on branding, artificial intelligence, client experience, leadership, and building systems that consistently outperform the competition. Abdel explains why today's mortgage professionals must stop thinking like loan officers and start acting like trusted adviso...