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If you’re interested in this episode, you may also like: ‘Glasgow City Council vs the unions - what next?’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00323x5 The Scottish Government has proposed major reform of local government, including replacing Scotland’s 32 councils with a two-tier structure. Martin talks to East Renfrewshire Council leader Owen O’Donnell (pictured left) and the SNP’s Midlothian Council leader Kelly Parry (pictured right) about John Swinney’s plans. Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast. This episode is hosted by Martin Geissler. Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk