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Better in Person with Stephen Dubner

Better in Person with Stephen Dubner

How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold

Jul 21, 2026 · 48m

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Gary and Stephen talk about creativity, recovery, getting fired, and holding grudges. They also get outside and play basketball, which is a big part of how Gary stays well.