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The Realignment

The Realignment

598 | Madeline Hart: How to Mobilize the American Industrial Base, Embrace Heretics, and Deter WWIII

Mar 24, 2026 · 56m

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Madeline Hart, Co-Founder of Palantir First Breakfast publication and co-author (with Shyam Sankar) of Mobilization: How to Reboot the American Industrial Base and Stop World War III, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Madeline discuss the need for embracing “heretics” in government, the case for “mobilization” as a means of deterring great power conflict and World War III, the roots of defense industry dysfunction in post-Cold War consolidation, and how the American people could materially benefit from investment in national defense.