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They Want to Ban Self-Improving AI, Gemini 4 Argon Isn't Even Top Two, and Sonnet 5.5 Disappoints | Alex Wissner-Gross x Richard Socher

Oct 4, 2026 · 43m

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About this episode

Alex Wissner-Gross and Richard Socher, the sharpest forty minutes of a two and a half hour Moonshots episode, reshaped for the ASI pilled. Richard runs Recursive, which just raised $670 million to build AI that improves itself, and he still puts superintelligence several decades away. Alex is not having it: hooking AI up to the physical world is the easy part. Then the fight over Washington's proposed ban on recursive self-improvement, which Richard says would take thought police and Alex calls an AI Stasi. Along the way: AI flourishing math instead of cooking it, a P(doom) of zero, the anti-Turing test, why Richard calls Anthropic's constitution fake while Alex defends soul documents, why…