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The Upstarts Podcast

The Upstarts Podcast

Bringing Back Mammoths And Building Noah’s Ark 2.0 | Colossal’s Ben Lamm

Oct 8, 2026 · 48m

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About this episode

Founder Ben Lamm has found success building startups in gaming, SaaS and AI. But the boldest — and biggest — bet of his career is Colossal Biosciences, a biotech venture working to bring back extinct species like the dire wolf, dodo, Tasmanian tiger and woolly mammoth. It's a decades-long endeavor so crazy that one investor warned Lamm it would "completely ruin" his career. But so far, it's working. Founded in 2021 by Lamm and famed Harvard geneticist George Church, Colossal has already cloned and raised three dire wolves in a secret location, created woolly mice, and reportedly held talks to raise at a valuation of $23 billion or more. Still, Lamm faces some basic, persistent questions:…