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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Bill Gates says to prepare for 20 years of ‘tumultuous’ AI disruption

Oct 22, 2026 · 1h 17m

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My guest today is Bill Gates, co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft and chairman of the Gates Foundation. You may have noticed Bill in the news more lately — he’s been on something of a tour for the past few months talking about AI risk, and how crucial it is that we start taking this seriously. So I was excited to sit down with him and really dig into this subject. I came with many questions, about AI policy, the technical aspects of alignment, and what it means for future generations that we’re building something this disruptive and potentially dangerous. Read the full interview transcript on The Verge. Links: The turbulent AI era is here. The choices we make now are critical. | Bill…