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Call Your Sister with Joy & Jinger

Call Your Sister with Joy & Jinger

The Power of Being Bored | Shawn Johnson & Andrew East

Jun 3, 2026 · 1h 1m

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In this episode, Shawn and Andrew open up about life behind the highlight reel: the thousands of hours of grueling practice before Beijing, Andrew getting cut from NFL roster after roster and choosing to keep going anyway, and what it actually looks like to build a life of meaning when the world is constantly throwing new options, distractions, and noise at you. They get into the real stuff... parenting three kids with completely opposite personalities, navigating the chaos of mid-30s marriage, and the moment their Type-A daughter discovered rock climbing and transformed overnight. They talk about the nature vs. nurture debate playing out in real time as their four-year-old son races…