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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

1031: Tokenomics: Why Your Agentic AI Bill Is Exploding (and How to Fix It), with Tyler Cox and Ish Shah

Sep 29, 2026 · 1h 15m

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In Episode #1031, Ish Shah and Tyler Cox (Distinguished Engineers in the Office of the CTO for Dell Technologies' client group) join Jon Krohn to work out why agentic AI bills are exploding and what can be done about it. Over one weekend Ish burned roughly two billion tokens on a side project, and that is the ordinary shape of agentic work now: agents spawn sub-agents, the pie of work grows, and cheaper tokens only invite more ambitious projects. Tyler runs a small Dell lab that pushes hundreds of millions of tokens a day through local hardware instead. In this episode, they define what makes a system agentic, explain how to read a Pareto curve when choosing models, work through the jagged…