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That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

How Measles Deaths Are Being Erased From the Record with Jessica Malaty Rivera

Sep 24, 2026 · 40m

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Pennsylvania's measles outbreak has claimed its fourth death — all unvaccinated — even as the CDC's public dashboard shows zero. Chelsea Clinton talks with epidemiologist Jessica Malaty Rivera about the politics behind that disconnect, including RFK Jr.'s reported push to alter the CDC's count, and how "died of" versus "died with" a disease is being twisted. They also unpack the EPA's removal of cancer risk estimates from air pollution data and newly released 9/11 air quality documents. You can follow Jessica @jessicamalatyrivera on Instagram. And check out her Substack at makingsciencemakesense.substack.com. The Clinton Foundation is a non-partisan organization that develops leaders and…