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Little Gold Men by Vanity Fair

Little Gold Men by Vanity Fair

From Uncanny Valley: The Creators of 'Hacks' Really, Really, Really Hate AI

Aug 27, 2026 · 47m

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A bonus episode from our friends at WIRED's Uncanny Valley. The hit HBO Max comedy series Hacks follows the tumultuous relationship between a young comedy writer Ava Daniels (Hannah Einbinder) and legacy comedian Deborah Vance (Jean Smart). The show has also had a lot to say about the business of show business. Creators Paul W. Downs and Lucia Aniello join Katie to talk about writing the series, corporate censorship, and why they find AI “deeply disturbing.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices