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The Lawfare Podcast

Scaling Laws: Can AI Make AI Regulation Cheaper?, with Cullen O'Keefe and Kevin Frazier

Mar 6, 2026 · 53m

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Alan Rozenshtein, research director at Lawfare , spoke with Cullen O'Keefe, research director at the Institute for Law & AI, and Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law and senior editor at Lawfare , about their paper, "Automated Compliance and the Regulation of AI" (and associated Lawfare article ), which argues that AI systems can automate many regulatory compliance tasks, loosening the trade-off between safety and innovation in AI policy. The conversation covered the disproportionate burden of compliance costs on startups versus large firms; the limitations of compute thresholds as a proxy for targeting AI regulation; how AI can…