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The Jolts That Make Us Quit — and the Ones Worth Ignoring (with Anthony Klotz)

Aug 19, 2026 · 45m

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About this episode

Most of us don't drift into quitting a job. Something happens — a single, identifiable moment — and that's when the relationship with our work actually changes. Anthony Klotz calls these moments "jolts," and once you have the word for it, you start seeing them everywhere: in your own career, in the people around you, in decisions you made years ago that you never quite had language for until now. Anthony is the organizational psychologist who coined the term "the Great Resignation," and his new book, Jolted: Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters , is the deepest treatment I've read of why people actually leave jobs — and just as importantly, why they sometimes shouldn't. We got into…