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Move Forward Despite Fear w/ Sabrina Shafer

Jun 19, 2026 · 50m

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In this episode Fear is something every single one of us experiences, yet most of us spend our lives trying to avoid it. In this powerful conversation, Kat sits down with Sabrina Shafer to explore a different perspective—what if fear isn't something to conquer, but something to learn from? Together, they discuss how fear can become a guide toward growth, confidence, and authenticity. From overcoming perfectionism and people-pleasing to building self-confidence through uncomfortable action, this episode dives into the mindset shifts that can transform the way you approach challenges. Sabrina shares her practical "Fear Forward" philosophy, while Kat reflects on her own journey of learning to…