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The Argument

What the hell is going on in Europe?

Oct 1, 2026 · 1h 2m

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How can Europe's liberals stop the far-right? Matt Yglesias and Jerusalem Demsas debate the far right's rise in Germany, France, and beyond, and whether Europe's mainstream parties mishandled immigration and opened the door for the AfD and Marine Le Pen. They get into what Sweden and Denmark got right on integration, why deportations and asylum deterrence are so hard, whether liberals should ever govern with the far right, and why Europe's strange aversion to air conditioning is a gift to populists. Plus a peer review on whether having more kids pushes mothers into remote work. (00:00) Are liberals losing Europe? (6:24) Magna Carta, freedom of movement, and immigration (14:05) Dril tweets…