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Black Liberation, Relationship Between Black Womxn & Kanye: Self As Sanctuary w/ Hope Giselle

Aug 13, 2026 · 1h 4m

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About this episode

On this final episode of Season 1, I sat down with my Hope Giselle for a layered conversation about the self as sanctuary, Black church culture, femininity, belief, celebrity, and what it means to become yourself after being shaped by religion. Together, we unpacked our relationships with the Black church and the specific ways femininity is performed, protected, and policed inside religious spaces, especially for Black womxn and Black gay men. We explored the pressure to embody a particular kind of “acceptable” femininity in order to receive love, safety, validation, or even visibility within our communities. We also talked about what it means to stand firmly in your identity today while…