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The Pragmatic Engineer

Why Rust is different, with Alice Ryhl

May 20, 2026 · 1h 5m

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Brought to You By: • Antithesis – verify your system’s correctness without human review or traditional integration tests – and avoid bugs or outages. • Sentry ⁠ – application monitoring software considered “not bad” by millions of developers • ⁠ Craft Conference ⁠ : join Gergely, Kent Beck, Hillel Wayne and others at the conference dedicated to the art and science of software delivery craft. — Rust is one of the most admired programming languages around – and also one of the hardest to learn. What makes developers stick with it? In this episode of The Pragmatic Engineer Podcast, I sit down with Alice Ryhl, a software engineer on Google’s Android Rust team, and a core maintainer of Tokio,…