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Joscha Bach: AGI, Consciousness, and the Evolution of Intelligence

Jun 8, 2026 · 1h 30m

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Artificial Intelligence is changing faster than most people realize, but are we asking the wrong questions about AI, AGI, consciousness, and the future of society? In this episode, cognitive scientist and AI researcher Joscha Bach joins us for a thought-provoking conversation on artificial intelligence, machine consciousness, large language models (LLMs), AGI, human intelligence, and the future of work. Joscha explains why intelligence is fundamentally about model-building, why consciousness may be a biological training algorithm, and what current AI systems are still missing. The conversation goes far beyond technology, tapping into innovation, capitalism, regulation, scientific progress,…